Next year's freshman class

[XU 87]

No , not the basketball team, I'm talking about the overall freshman class for next year. Last year's freshman class had 867 students. The incoming freshman class has 1216 students, which is the largest class ever.

That's pretty impressive, particularly considering our economic times.

[XU05and07]

Where are they going to find places for that many kids to live? Are sophomores guaranteed housing anymore?

[BBC 08]

I was told this weekend that every room in Kuhlman and Husman will be triples.

[kyxu]

That's pretty impressive, particularly considering our economic times.

One of the best ways to weather an economic storm and a terrible job market is to spend it in school.

[pickledpigsfeet]

I was told this weekend that every room in Kuhlman and Husman will be triples.

6 people get to share 1 bathroom, bring a cup.

[94GRAD]

6 people get to share 1 bathroom, bring a cup.

Will that 1 cup be for 2 girls?

[whiteyxu]

Man, that's a double whammy. First, sophomores are not allowed to live off campus, and now that they have to stay they are all stuck with triples in normal rooms. Ouch!

[MD Muskie]

Will that 1 cup be for 2 girls?

ohh how sick! well timed line though. definitely worth a rep point.

[PMI]

Man, that's a double whammy. First, sophomores are not allowed to live off campus, and now that they have to stay they are all stuck with triples in normal rooms. Ouch!

Wait sophomores can't live off campus anymore? If that's the case AND with such a gigantic freshman class, bye bye high retention rate Mr. Scheiss. If you told me I had to live in Kuhlman sophomore year with 2 roommates and I didn't have a choice, I probably would have pulled a Derrick Brown and left early.

[Kahns Krazy]

No , not the basketball team, I'm talking about the overall freshman class for next year. Last year's freshman class had 867 students. The incoming freshman class has 1216 students, which is the largest class ever.

That's pretty impressive, particularly considering our economic times.

Unless last year was unusually low, that growth rate (40.2%) doesn't seem healthy for a school.

[SixFig]

XU needed a class of this size to help it weather the economic storm. Hopefully we did not compromise our academic/"whole person" standards in order to get more people. Also, hopefully this speeds up the time table for a new residence hall.

I'm sure a certain basketball team's success had no small part in increased interest in X.

[whiteyxu]

Wait sophomores can't live off campus anymore? If that's the case AND with such a gigantic freshman class, bye bye high retention rate Mr. Scheiss. If you told me I had to live in Kuhlman sophomore year with 2 roommates and I didn't have a choice, I probably would have pulled a Derrick Brown and left early.

Yeah, they made the decision pretty close to the room selection time this year. They said any freshmen who had not yet signed a lease to live somewhere off campus (or who were regular commuters, I think) had to stay on campus, either in the dorms, or apartments. Sure it sucks, but I guess when you think about it most sophs live on campus anyway, and it was to the point in the year where it's kinda hard to find a place nearby with all of your friends unless you know somebody. And this was before they knew that they were gonna have 1200 new students, as well. I'd say it's a lot of bad luck (for housing, not necessarily the school) with a little bit of poor planning perhaps.

In addition, it's possible that with the multitude of new students, hopefully the student section will be in higher demand, and get a little rowdier. Sure, it's speculation and we obviously won't become Duke overnight, but there's a chance for some improvement next year considering only the number of students. Just a thought.

[PMI]

Yeah, they made the decision pretty close to the room selection time this year. They said any freshmen who had not yet signed a lease to live somewhere off campus (or who were regular commuters, I think) had to stay on campus, either in the dorms, or apartments. Sure it sucks, but I guess when you think about it most sophs live on campus anyway, and it was to the point in the year where it's kinda hard to find a place nearby with all of your friends unless you know somebody. And this was before they knew that they were gonna have 1200 new students, as well. I'd say it's a lot of bad luck (for housing, not necessarily the school) with a little bit of poor planning perhaps.

In addition, it's possible that with the multitude of new students, hopefully the student section will be in higher demand, and get a little rowdier. Sure, it's speculation and we obviously won't become Duke overnight, but there's a chance for some improvement next year considering only the number of students. Just a thought.

Good point on the student section. It could certainly only benefit by having more students around.

I lived in Kuhlman as a sophomore and it wasn't that bad. But with an extra kid crammed in that room it would have been brutal. Junior year, 3 friends and I planned on living in the Village but none of us drew a high enough number to get in. We already made up our minds that we weren't going back on campus so we got up in the middle of the assembly and started heading for the exit. The woman in charge of resident life said over the microphone, "If you leave now you will have no chance of living on campus next year." I replied "Thanks," and we headed out the door anyway. She rushed after us, bright-red in the face, and yelled at us for whatever it was we had just done wrong and made it abundantly clear that we were not going to ever be living on campus again, so we got in the car and began looking around Norwood for a house. Long story short, we got really lucky and found one of the last houses left for rent within reasonable distance on the Norwood side, but we were that close to being totally out of luck. If that had happened this year, I can only imagine how screwed we would have been.

For current students who ever have the aspiration of living off campus, I suggest getting on that as early as possible. It was competitive enough a few years ago, I can't imagine what it will be like a a couple years.

[Kahns Krazy]

XU needed a class of this size to help it weather the economic storm. Hopefully we did not compromise our academic/"whole person" standards in order to get more people. Also, hopefully this speeds up the time table for a new residence hall.

I'm sure a certain basketball team's success had no small part in increased interest in X.

So they're expecting a 30+% dropout rate because of the economy? I really don't get it.

[An X Fan]

Xavier was not expecting or attempting to pull in a class of 1,200+ freshmen, but they were trying to grow enrollment. I thought it was suicide in this climate, but many, many more students than normal said "yes" to Xavier. That, my fellow grads, is a good thing. Very, very, very few private schools in the midwest had flat or slightly positive freshman enrollment - nearly all are down. For Xavier to have 40% growth says a lot about the school.

While basketball success certainly helps with name recognition, it rarely helps a student decide to spend $100,000 and go to a certain college. It helps more with students considering Xavier, not really making the final decision on Xavier.

As has been said, many traditional doubles in the dorms will be triples. There are plans for a new residence hall, probably in the style of the Commons (I think), that could be ready by Fall 2011. That doesn't help today, but it will help down the road.

It could be worse - these kids could be going to Dayton.

[TheDanimal]

I have a feeling the good old Move Crew will have their hands full this fall with excess luggage and public relations when parents first lay their eyes on a Kuhlman triple. I am a proud former Buenger resident, and I remember working move crew the first year they put bedrooms in the common room; a little part of me died inside.

[MuskieCinci]

A lot of the freshmen that were going to be sophmores that were looking at going off campus when the decision was announced immediately went out the next day and found a place and had the landlord backdate the lease so that Xavier let them live off campus. I lived in Kuhlman my first two years and had no problem with it but I wanted to get off campus as an upper classman. This is move in week for a lot of the upperclassman moving into houses near campus. I'm moving into 1928 Cleneay right now if anyone is familiar with that house or ones nearby it.

[bobbiemcgee]

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.luxist.com/media/2008/06/thejane.jpg

could open a set of these behind Dana's with a "slide for life" into the bar

[pickledpigsfeet]

Dana's is lickings its chops thinking about business 3 years from now. BJ, can I invest in your business?

[Masterofreality]

Hey, turn the Armory into a "Communal Living" space. You could probably fit about 100 cots into that space. Guys and chicks together with joint showers? Sweet. That would be a great social experiment that the university could get Federal Grant money for. Hell, the government is just throwing caish out to everything right now, anyway.

Appropriate payback to the Military/Industrial complex that we all despised back in the "Summer of Love" days.

[DC Muskie]

Xavier was not expecting or attempting to pull in a class of 1,200+ freshmen, but they were trying to grow enrollment. I thought it was suicide in this climate, but many, many more students than normal said "yes" to Xavier. That, my fellow grads, is a good thing. Very, very, very few private schools in the midwest had flat or slightly positive freshman enrollment - nearly all are down. For Xavier to have 40% growth says a lot about the school.

While basketball success certainly helps with name recognition, it rarely helps a student decide to spend $100,000 and go to a certain college. It helps more with students considering Xavier, not really making the final decision on Xavier.

As has been said, many traditional doubles in the dorms will be triples. There are plans for a new residence hall, probably in the style of the Commons (I think), that could be ready by Fall 2011. That doesn't help today, but it will help down the road.

It could be worse - these kids could be going to Dayton.

I have to ask, is growing enrollment a good thing?

I've had some conversations with other Xavier grads, including my brother, who don't like the idea of Xavier growing the undergrad enrollment so high. What's the advantage of growing the classes, especially if we have to cram them into spaces? Maybe I'm old, but six kids living on their own for the first time sharing a bathroom...no thanks.

When I was at Loyola, the idea was to strengthen the class with quality students...of course that was 5 years ago. Are we still seeing the same quality of student, or are we going for what we let in in 1994, namely people like me?

[XU05and07]

New Dorm...New sections of classes...Goodbye Alter Hall (not part of the original plans)

Xavier to Grow with Big New Class (http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090602/NEWS0102/906030312/Xavier+to+grow+with+big+new+class)

[stxxu]

New Dorm...New sections of classes...Goodbye Alter Hall (not part of the original plans)

Xavier to Grow with Big New Class (http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20090602/NEWS0102/906030312/Xavier+to+grow+with+big+new+class)

You beat me to it...I was just reading this article and about to post it also.

[xudash]

You beat me to it...I was just reading this article and about to post it also.

And the article appears to make clear the fact that there is no academic fall-off in the quality of this class.

I think it's great news that a new dorm and a new Alter Hall will be coming on line.

I'm concerned about what will become of the Xavier Square concept - I really liked it and thought that was going to make a real statement for Xavier overall. Yet these guys really do know what they're doing, so I'm sure the XS and old Kroger sites will develop nicely at the appropriate time.

[GuyFawkes38]

Definitely an effort to raise more cash.

Hmmm, seems like it's always better if a school can raise cash through donations and increased tuition rather than adding students. It might not hurt the quality of the students this year, but longterm it most likely will.

[Masterofreality]

I see no problem with growing enrollment. Why not?

Adding 300 kids per class only raises the total undergrad to about 4,500. Not exactly Oh-ho-ho State. The grad school enrollment is probably down a bit because of the recession, so a full time undergrad increase is a good counterbalance.

And as to quality. I wasn't exactly the reincarnation of Al Einstein. More like Al E. Neumann.

[nuts4xu]

I guess they really don't need the Bridge Program right now, do they?

Thank god I entered Xavier when I did. My 890 SAT probably woudn't have made the cut in today's day and age. They gave me 400 for putting my name on the page, and my dumb ass could only muster another 490 points on that test.

Long live the Bridge Program!!! Fellow Bridge-ers Unite!!!

Willie Cunningham's kid was in Bridge with me. Pot made that kid smarter. Thats how dumb he was. And Xavier was fine to accept him as long as he took some remedial program classes during the summer before Freshman year.

My roomate was Mike Hawkins. Best roomate I ever had. We both struggled but received good grades that summer. I think I was wasted 4 out of 5 days that summer and pulled 2A's & a B. Xavier needed us retards back then. They don't need guys like me NOW taking up beds in those dorm rooms, they just need my money.

That's the way I would have hoped. I love to see my alma mater improve itself like this.

[SixFig]

So they're expecting a 30+% dropout rate because of the economy? I really don't get it.

Well Xavier lost 1/3 of its reserves when the stock market tanked (you don't think they simply put donations in the bank). Thats near 80 million. So the "east campus" project had to be shelved and there was a period of hiring freezes. Thats the economic storm.

Luckily this new class brings in excess money and hey, Xavier didn't even have to build them a new dorm!